May 7 2012
SIG P238 REVIEW
Four of the Sig P238s have come through my classes in the recent past, and I have had the opportunity to both shoot them as well as observe them in the hands of my students.
I realize that the P238 is by no means a newer gun, but with them recently becoming more popular with the female students in my classes, I would like say a few words regarding it’s functionality for both myself and my students.
The Specs:
The Sig Sauer P238 is marketed as sub-compact pistol, with a 2.7 inch barrel chambered in .380ACP, a capacity of 6+1, and comes in many different finishes (One of my personal favorites is the Rainbow Finish).
This pistol clearly resembles the 1911 in appearance and function. The action type for all models is Single Action Only (SAO), just like the 1911. Trigger pull is a heavy 7.5 to 8.5 pounds.
Measurements are 5.5 inches in length, width is 1.1 inches, and height is 3.9 inches with an empty weight of 15.2 ounces.
Most models come from the factory with SIGLITE night sights pre-installed. According to Sig Sauer’s website the MSRP for the basic model begins at $679.00, however better prices can be found at most gun shops.
Why My Students Purchased The P238:
All of my female students who brought the P238 to class were in agreement when asked why they choose this particular pistol. They stated that they were attracted to its looks, size, and the fact that none of them had any problems cycling the slide. All of them went on to say that they were also advised by the dealers that the .380ACP would be a good choice due to the relatively light recoil produced by this round.
How The P238 Functioned In The Hands of Female Beginners:
In the basic course, all four of my female students had no problems loading and firing the P238 in the course of fire. Most pistols performed well, with the exception of one that had a tendency to “stove-pipe”. A “stove- pipe” is when the spent casing gets caught in the ejection port of the gun resembling a stove-pipe. In this case, it appeared to be related to the grip of the shooter combined with the gun needing a little more lubrication (Sigs like to run fairly wet).
One thing that confused these students was that about 50% of the time, when they slammed a magazine in the magazine well, the slide cycled forward what seemed to be automatically. After a little investigation, we realized that this was because the gun is som small, the thumb on their strong hand (the one gripping the gun) was resting on the slide release button. When the magazine was inserted, their grip tightened, and the slide cycled forward.
Most of the ladies, all new shooters, had no problems keeping the majority of rounds on target at the 3 yard distance with the P238 and found the recoil to be very manageable and comfortable to shoot.
At the end of the day, the biggest complaint was that there wasn’t enough real estate on the grips to get a good grip on the firearm.

In my more advanced course, we go through a much more challenging course of fire. In this class, we work on drawing from a holster, single-handed shooting, reloading, shooting with a flashlight, and much more. The course of fire for this class is designed to force reloads under stress and challenge both the student as well as the equipment.
The first challenge for the students presented itself when learning to draw from a holster with the P238. The largest complaint with drawing was the difficulty in releasing the safety with one hand. The safety on the P238 tends to take a great deal of force to release. Both ladies had to use their off-handed thumb to release the safety, which could be problematic in a defensive situation. With enough practice, I believe they can learn to manipulate that safety single-handed.
Another concern with drawing from the holster was that the holster that came standard with the P238 had a tendency to come off the belt and stay on the gun. This is probably due to the lack of sturdiness and tightness of the belt, and can easily be fixed with a good tactical belt.
Throughout the day, both of my female students who brought the P238 to class had difficulty with continual stove-pipes. At which point, it was no longer the student’s grip on the gun (as that had been
corrected) but how dirty the gun had gotten throughout the course of the day along with the fact that it had basically run dry. More lubrication was added and the problem was mostly resolved.
Yet, another concern with this pistol was revealed when we practiced tactical reloads. A tactical reload is the process of reloading the gun before it runs out of ammunition. The idea is to retain the old magazine that still has ammunition in it as you load the new magazine into the gun. If you have not practiced this drill, it can be quite a juggling act.
Tactical reloads appeared to be a difficult for both shooters with the Sig P238. The largest complaint was with the narrow single-stack grip, which made it a real challenge for the shooters to depress the mag-release with the shooting hand thumb. The grip was actually so small that the ladies had difficulty curling their shooting hand’s thumb in far enough to hit the release. This is important since when performing this kind of reload, the off-hand is occupied managing the magazines, while the shooting hand is managing the pistol.
At the end of the class, both ladies performed well with the P238, however, they learned that much practice with this model (jam clearing and manipulating the levers and buttons) will be needed in order to operate this pistol smoothly under stress.
Both ladies liked their Sig Sauer P238’s, but, I know one of them will be shopping for a larger pistol.
How the P238 Functioned in My Hands:
When I tried the P238, I found it to be very accurate and fun to shoot (it’s just so cute!).
I also noticed that the small frame size could make operation of this pistol more difficult than a larger framed pistol (depending on size of the operator’s hands); but it was still manageable ergonomically. The only complaint I have about the operation of this gun is that the safety levers seemed to be a little sticky, taking more force and strength then most thumb safeties.
Everything cycled very smoothly. I had no “stove-pipes” when I shot it, and the extractor and ejector had no visible issues. The magazines that come standard with the gun fed well, no problems there.
Trigger pull was noticeably heavy, especially for a single action, 1911 style pistol. It was not, however, heavy enough to cause any issues with accuracy or speed.
I would definitely consider the P238 as an option for a backup gun. Some of my reasons for not choosing the 238 for primary carry would be caliber, capacity, and possible difficulty of operation due to the frame size.
All in all, I think that unless the shooter is in love with the 1911 design, he/she might want to take a look at other pistols in the sub compact category that offer a larger caliber at a lower price point. Alternatives worth looking at might be the Springfield XDS in .45ACP, the Kahr PM9, or the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield. Seeing the issues I have seen with this gun in the hands of new shooters, I would recommend extensively handling and possibly renting or borrowing this gun before purchasing it for a beginner.
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© Packing Pretty, Grace McKee 2012










May 07, 2012 @ 12:06:37
Good review. As is typical, the P238 seems to be selected primarily because of its small size. For these individuals, it boils down to carrying it (thus comfort) and not shooting it. (I think the Ruger LCP is so popular for the same reason.) The small grip makes it susceptible to “limp wristing” and thus the stovepipe jams. The small size also means clearing jams can be difficult.
I too had no difficulty shooting the P238, but then I have been shooting full-size 1911s for many years so the layout and controls are all very familiar. My students often have difficulty shooting these small pistols because of the small grip and miniscule sights. Of all of the self-defense pocket pistols that I have tried over the years, I am still convinced the new S&W M&P Shield stand head and shoulders above the rest. Have you been able to lay your hands on one yet?
May 07, 2012 @ 13:05:01
Gary,
Not yet… still waiting and wishing! I agree about the students struggeling with the smaller guns. I see it in every class.
Thanks for your thoughts and reading Packing Pretty!
May 07, 2012 @ 12:28:47
I’ve owned a P238 for about a year. I’m a 1911 fanatic and wanted the same “manual of arms” for a back up/secondary gun. It’s a hoot to shoot and is very accurate. After about 500 rounds the trigger smoothed and came to about 6 pounds…very usable. The stock holster sucks, either a CrossBreed MiniTuck or a Galco pocket holster are superior and I have both.
I’m looking forward to shooting a P938 when I can find one.
May 07, 2012 @ 13:30:45
John,
I also love 1911s, they are great guns. Which is why this little booger fascinated me!
When you find the 938, let me know how it shoots!
Thanks for reading Packing Pretty and commenting!
May 08, 2012 @ 06:15:21
I bought a P238 for the same reason. My primary carry weapons are a 1911 or Hi-Power of some variation and I wanted the safety to be in the same place and operate in the same manner.
May 08, 2012 @ 06:53:49
I agree the holster was rediculous! My father-in-law made me a leather one by hand and its so much better than that sorry excuse of a hunk of plastic they send with the firearm!
May 07, 2012 @ 16:59:25
I love my Sig 238. Great sights, excellent ergonomics, accurate, smooth operation. I haven’t practice speed drawing or other drills, so I can’t comment there. The upcoming 938 will be interesting to see. Until then, I’m going to go with the Shield.
May 07, 2012 @ 17:23:40
Pink Pistol,
Let me know how you like the Shield! I’m dying to get my hands on one and see if the trigger is better then M&P Compact.
Thanks for reading and commenting on Packing Pretty!
May 07, 2012 @ 18:45:58
I’ve seen a couple of the little Sig 238s come through my NRA/Ohio CCW courses that I teach… I’m curious to see if Colt’s newly re-introduced Mustang catches on for folks… especially the ladies…
May 07, 2012 @ 18:48:22
I should note… as an instructor… I don’t think a small pocket pistol or snubby revolver is the best place for new shooters to start with… but I’m amazed at how many ladies come to class with a little gun that has a minimal sight radius because someone at the gun store or dealer thinks those are best for ladies to begin with…
May 27, 2012 @ 10:28:00
I also find this amusing. Guess somewhat depends upon all of the ladies previous exposure to guns in general. I was introduced to 1911 .45acp’s and shot with it very well, but when it came time to carry felt it was too heavy and big so went for a couple of 380′s (Walther PPK & Colts Mustang [1st generation]). They were better for carrying to me, but stop-ability was a bit on the less desirable side. But will say IF I had not been out shooting targets before my first purchase I probably would also have ended up with the smaller caliber as a beginning gun.
Then again see my post about my SA V10
May 07, 2012 @ 19:09:18
Gracie,
As you know I pretty much love all things Sig. I also like the 380 ACP. I have shot the P238 and like it a lot for me. On really warm days, I drop my Seecamp in my pocket and it disappears, until I need it . I agree, the small 380 is not the best choice for brand new shooters. I also think it best to have a couple of different options for my concealed carry.(As someone who sells guns, I think everyone should have 20 handguns all bought from me) The P238 fills a spot in the “This will work, even if it ain’t perfect” category. Sadly we can’t all have full size major caliber handguns at all times. It’s hard to carry a Glock 20 in a Speedo……
May 08, 2012 @ 06:11:20
Thanks for this review – very helpful. I have a P238 and have loved it from the start – much more pleasant to shoot and maintain than the Ruger LCP. It has at least 500 rounds through it now, and has no functioning problems.
May 08, 2012 @ 06:47:46
I own this gun in the rainbow finish! I did however change the grips to an aluminum one made by rhynotek ( purchased on amazon.com) and it made a big difference in handling because it grips your hand much better and as far as the safety goes mine is very easily managed – not sticky at all and I can do it one handed. You have to just customize them sometimes to make it fit your needs. I also had no priblems with failure to feed or eject like alot of people have. I had my feed ramp polished which helps greatly and a decent amount of a good oil should keep you from running dry and when I did have issues it was an ammo issue. The only brand that gives me trouble is herters. Thay brand works well in other guns but not so much in my P238. Hope this helps some of the other owners that might be having some of these issues with theirs!
May 08, 2012 @ 06:54:59
Get the x-grip 7 round mags,they make the grip much better and easier to use the gun…The only way to go!!!
May 08, 2012 @ 08:09:15
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May 08, 2012 @ 09:01:03
My wife runs a P238 as her EDC. She uses a fullsize 1911 as her IDPA gun, so it made sense to get a “baby 1911″ for her carry gun. I have had the opportunity to shoot it a few times and been impressed. I was able to make hits on a popper at 50 yards with no trouble. If I was looking for a BUG gun the P238 would probably be on the top of my list.
May 08, 2012 @ 12:51:16
I forgot to mention that Colt Mustang magazines work perfectly in the P-238 and they are very affordable at Midway.
HTH
May 08, 2012 @ 13:53:14
John,
That’s awesome! I will be sharing this useful nugget! Thanks for sharing
-Gracie
President & Editor-in-Chief of Packing Pretty
May 08, 2012 @ 21:07:03
I have had mine for a about 2 years. The only time i have notices “stove piping” is when i let some of my female friends shoot it, or my smaller guy friends try to shoot it off hand.
I think this is caused by letting the the gun go back to far and losing energy. Hold it out, and don’t let it move, all problems fixed.
Hope that helps ladies.
May 17, 2012 @ 10:05:53
The 238 is to small for me, I’ll stick with my Sig 226.
May 18, 2012 @ 04:08:42
Great review Gracie,
I bought my P238 two days ago, having had a love affair with the 1911 since childhood, getting the Sig was an obvious choice for a back up piece. This is my first Sig (not my first .380) and had the opportunity to fire one before I bought it at a local gun range, I was very impressed. Mine is the P238 Nitron with the x-grips mag extension and I HIGHLY recommend the extension for people with med to larger hands, it makes an incredible difference in control of this small firearm. The fact that it is a clone of the Colt Mustang and further a “mini me” of the 1911, Will make the typical 1911 user more comfortable with the Sig P238 than other small caliber firearms (it did for me) All in all, this is a perfect back up for a daily larger frame CHL holder and definitely a great EDC gun for someone who is very active and or usually travels light.
May 18, 2012 @ 04:16:12
I thought I would mention that if you take a file and take down the two little nubs (top of the stock holster, on the inside right where the front sight channel for the gun slides in) it makes the P238 draw MUCH better from it without losing retention of the gun.
May 27, 2012 @ 10:15:54
When I first saw the .45 Springfield Armory new V10 blue & stainless and tried to find a place to purchase one (had to wait almost a year), but as a couple of the gun shop men said “if she wants that gun you will not be able to talk her out of it”. I loved it from the very first look and it was everything I expected. So for others out there when she has made up her mind on a particular gun she will find a way to get it!
I usually would say no want to handle and shoot that type of gun before purchasing, but there just are times we know what we want. This has been my best choice so far in a hand gun & I’ve never regretted the wait and purchase.
May 29, 2012 @ 10:34:18
I felt the same about my STI Spartan III .45, Never fired it, there was very little online about it, but I was familiar with STI’s background and I LOVED the options and look of the pistol. Like you, I was NOT disappointed in it’s performance, dead dog dirty or sparkling clean it’s a nail tacker. it was in the mid range price wise for 1911s but worth every penny.
May 29, 2012 @ 11:56:37
Anyone have trouble with feeding Remington – or any other brand – jacketed hollow points with this gun?
May 29, 2012 @ 13:15:27
Hornady Critical Defense ammo seems to work flawlessly in my P238 Do not get Monarch JHP, it gets stuck every time, all other ammo seems to work rather well in it.
Aug 23, 2012 @ 02:40:28
I carry a 238 often because of the concealability of it. The extended mag and a Hogue grip made it fit my larger hand much better. The problem I’ve had as far as stove piping on this pistol is when I’m shooting too fast (my other pistols I shoot regularly are xd’s ) so I have to remember my timing better. Normaly carry it in a leather belt slide style holster and have not had any issues with drawing. Very fun to shoot and easy to maintain. I highly recommend the Hogue grips and the extended (7 rd) magazines for this pistol.
Sep 14, 2012 @ 21:29:30
I found the Sig P238 to be an absolute failure as a self defense handgun. As a 1911 style handgun aficionado I thought that the p238 would be a great firearm for warm weather concealed carry. The firearm fails in one respect, It is such a glaring error that there need be no further review- Racking the slide with the right side of the pistol facing up causes the slide release to fall out of the pistol. The result is that the firearm disassembles itself under normal conditions. As a former Marine, as a person who relies on their firearm, as a person who paid over $600 for a firearm that has no place being used as a tool to defend my family and I, it is sad for me to say that I will not recommend any Sig product until they repair or refund this abject failure of a product.
Sep 15, 2012 @ 07:43:56
Justin, thank you for pointing this out. I am now going to run my review guns through some more rigorous tests. I am wondering if this is happening with all the P238s or if you got a dud? Either way, it’s not okay. And now I’m hoping one my students this morning brings one for me to play with again.
Thank you for your dedication and service to the country. And thank you for reading Packing Pretty!
May 17, 2013 @ 17:00:13
I just bought a sig P238 2 hours ago…lots of misfeeds, in fact it does not like 380 FMJ at all, finally got it to shoot with Hornaday HP…is this normal? I am taking it back to the shop where I bought it and see if they will make it right or if I have to send it back to Sig Sauer.
Nov 06, 2012 @ 12:19:48
I tried many different guns before finally settling on my P238. I couldn’t be happier with it. I did have issues with the “stove-pip” but I changed my grip and keep the gun clean, I no longer have any issues. I did not like that my entire hand did not fit around the gun, so I bought a couple of extended magazines. Now i have no issues. I didn’t think the safety or magazine release were difficult at all. This is my first and only gun. I will be carrying this gun once my CWP comes in the mail.
I love this site, and hope maybe your expertise can help me in the future when I want to purchase something else.